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Jos Boersema (josX): There is no such thing as 'non Euclidean math'  (1-Oct-2002)

Randy Poe wrote:
>josX wrote:
>> There is no such thing as 'non Euclidean math', where 'Euclidean'
>> stands for reality-math.
>
>The surface of a sphere is non-Euclidean. We live on it.
>
>I do non-Euclidean math all the time, and so does every
>navigator on earth.

If that is all there is not non-Euclidean math, then there would be
no problem with it (besides it's name, which should be spherical-plane
geometry, but that doesn't sound cool enough probably), however that's
not the impression i'm getting. I hear stories about parallel lines
crossing for instance, but they can't cross, and they don't exist on
spherical planes, because straight lines don't exist on spherical
planes. So i figure this whole 'non-euclidian geometry' is simply
doing normal geometry on a sphere with a redefinition of words like
straight and parallel.

The shortest distance between two points doesn't exist on a sphere, it
goes beneath the sphere.
If you do spherical geometry (lines on a sphere),
you are doing 3D geometry, don't forget that, and there is nothing
mysterious about it. This non-euclidian thing seems to be a hollow hype
to me. Get yourself a balloon and draw on it, now you're doing ""non
euclidian geometry"", big deal (not).

Then you can project this sphere unto a flat plane, that's fine, i still
don't see any magical things or strange things, just basic geometry that
can be experimentally verified and curve fitted.
--
jos

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