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An immortal fumble by Androcles (19-Dec-2005)

Name one experiment...
"The TimeLord" <mathnphysics-not@bellsouth.com> wrote in message 
news:pan.2005.12.19.06.01.19.465253@bellsouth.com...
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:40:01 -0800, "Androcles" <androc1es@hotmail.com>
> wrote in <1134938401.297959.90330@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>
>> jesper pedersen wrote:
>>
>>> "Len Gaasenbeek" <gaasbeek@rideau.net> wrote in message
>>> news:M9-dnchuttMC5TjeRVn-sQ@wtccommunications.ca...
>>> > To Pentcho,
>>> >
>>> > Keep up the good work!  But none are so blind as those who do not want 
>>> > to
>>> > see!
> [...]
>>> > For my part, I will continue to provide the correct explanation
>>> > for the
>>> > various 'relativistic' phenomena mentioned in this newsgroup.
> [...]
>>> Yet experimental evidence is in favour of the "illogical reasoning"
>>> og relativity.
>>
>> Name one experiment and the experimenter to back up your claim.
>
> Experiments:
> 1881-1887 = Even though they didn't know it, Michaelson and
>    Moreley provided the first evidence of length contraction.

Idiot, Michelson and Morley is evidence that light speed is source 
dependent.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1938 = H E Ives and G R Stilwell showed that the relativistic
>    Doppler shift was correct and the one based on the aether
>    theory was not.

Idiot, Ives and Stillwell is evidence that light speed is source dependent.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1941 = B Rossi and D B Hall showed time dilation predicted by
>    Special Relativity using muons.

Idiot, muons travel from the top of the atmosphere to sea level, 100 km, in 
2.2 microseconds, speed 15c > c.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1972 = J C Haefele and Richard E Keating showed time dilation
>    predicted by both Special and General Relativity using
>    cesium clocks on jet airliners.

Idiot, Haefele and Keating didn't check their clocks against a sundial.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1979 = J J Dykla showed that transverse motion generates Doppler
>    shift just as Special Relativity predicts.

Idiot, quote the transverse doppler equation.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> Aether theory
>    predicts no Doppler shift for transverse motion.

Idiot, who gives a fuck for aether?
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1610-1990 = Galileo, Newton, Bessel, Eotvos, Dicke, et al showed
>    that inertial mass is probably equivalent to gravitational
>    mass as General Relativity assumes.

Idiot, I don't accept "probable" as logical reasoning.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> Most recent value is
>    by Adelberger (1990) at Abs[mI-mG]/mI < 10^-11.
> 1919-1973 = Several astronomical observatories including Greenwich,
>    Lick, Yerkes et al verified the deflection of light due to
>    mass predicted by General Relativity and not by Newton, using
>    solar eclipses.

Idiot.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation and prediction:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months).
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1968-1991 = Several planetary probes have verified the retardation
>    of light predicted by General Relativity and not by Newton.
>    Best value was from Viking 2 (1979) on Mars at within 0.1% of
>    the prediction of General Relativity.

Idiot, ask Cassini the time.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> 1970-?? = Observatories are continuing to collect evidence for
>    gravitational lensing predicted by General Relativity. Included
>    are Q0957+561 A and B, Q2237+031 (Einstein Cross) and many
>    others.

Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

> ??-1992 = U S Naval Observatory with others including Arecibo,
>    Haystack, and Goldstone verified the precession of planetary
>    orbits predicted by General Relativity and not by Newton.

Idiot, Newton's laws only are used in this 4 leaf clover precession:
 http://www.ifmo.ru/butikov/Projects/Collection1.html example 5
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

>    The observations also showed that Special Relativity is only
>    an approximation to General Relativity.

Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

>
> Those are just the ones I can list off the top of my head (and my
> notes that I can find). Good books on Relativity will have more.

Which shows you an idiot incapable of reason.
Name one experiment and the experimenter in favour of illogical reasoning.

Androcles.
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