SR fundamental contradiction ------------------------------------------ Luttgens: Let x = ct. Then x' = g(x - vt), where gamma = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), becomes x' = g(c-v)t What represents the length (c-v)t? Is that length "dilated" by g? Van de Moortel: Consider the event E on the light signal with x = c t for some chosen value of t. Then c t - v t is the distance between the origin of S' (the 'moving observer') and the light signal, as seen at time t in the S-frame (the 'stationary frame'), and, by the way, so c - v is by definition the closing velocity between the two. For this event E, as seen in S', the light signal has covered the distance x' = c t' = g (c - v) t This is a distance of the event E in the S' frame. Now imagine a stick with this particular length x' = g (c-v) t at rest in the S' frame. What is the length of such a stick in the S-frame? If you apply length contraction, you find that this length would be x' / g = (c - v) t in the S frame. Luttgens: Any object (stick) measures shorter in terms of a frame relative to which it is moving with velocity v that it does as measured in a frame relative to which it is at rest, the ratio of shortening being sqrt(1-v^2/c^2). This is a relation between measurements referred to different frames. If a stick of length x' = g(c-v)t is at rest in the S' frame, it is moving at v relative to the frame S. So, measured in S, its length is contracted by 1/g and becomes x = g(c-v)t * 1/g = (c-v)t. This corresponds to Van de Moortel's reasoning, which is circular. Indeed, x' = g(c-v)t has been obtained *by applying the LT* to x = (c-v)t, when S' was considered as moving relative to S, and thus relative to the stick. No wonder that one gets back x = (c-v)t when S is afterwards considered as moving wrt S'. One has instead to consider a stick of length x = (c-v)t at rest in the frame S. Relative to the frame S', such stick is moving at v, hence its length, measured in S', is shortened by 1/g wrt its length measured in S. Thus, x' = (c-v)t / g. But *according to the LT*, x' = (c-v)t * g ! Such contradiction demonstrates the falseness of the Lorentz transformation, falseness whose origin lies in the postulate that when x = ct, x' = ct'. |
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