"Randy Poe" <rpoePA@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:kplpmv017s5rkh4l0obo3cn30gvrutpo93@4ax.com... > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:34:20 +0100, "AndroclesInEngland" > <jp006f9750@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hence (A xor B) does NOT imply [all of] (A or B), > > "imply all of"? What does that mean? (A xor B) means that either > property A is true or property B is true, but not both. For example, > let A = "X is a dog" and B = "X > 50 kg". If X is an adult elephant, > (A xor B) is true. If X is a 75 kg St. Bernard, (A xor B) is false. > Clear? > > OK, now the statement (A or B) is true if either A is true, or B is > true, or both. (A or B) is true for the elephant. (A or B) is true for > the St. Bernard. That's not a problem. The claim is that > (A xor B) => (A or B), and what that means is if I choose an X such > that (A xor B) is true, then (A or B) is true. > > Symbolically, this is written with a double arrow to the right => > Nobody would read this as "implies all of". There's no such phrase. If > the second statement implies the first, we can write a double arrow to > the left <=. If both implications hold, we write a double-headed > arrow: <=> This can be read as "the two statements are equivalent" or > "the first statement is true if and only if the second statement is > true". That seems to be what you think "implies" means, when you > mutate it into "implies all of". > > For the elephant, (A xor B) is true. If I say that this implies (A or > B) is true, it means the elephant satisfies (A or B). What the hell > would it mean to say that the elephant satisfies "all of" (A or B). > > > anymore than his assertion > > that sqrt(x) has only one possible answer does. > > sqrt(x) is the symbol which is conventionally taken to stand for the > non-negative root when x >=0, and i times a nonnegative value when x < > 0. It stands for only one of the two possible square roots of x. The > reason it is useful is that it is useful to have a "square root > function", and functions are single-valued. > > - Randy > Doesn't matter to me if you don't know that (-1) * (-1) = 1, Randy. You can beleive the only root of 1 is 1 if you want to. (chuckling) Androcles |
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